For this episode we spoke with Irene Perez Ibarra, a researcher at the AgriFood Institute of Aragon, housed within the University of Zaragoza, Spain. We chatted about her initial scientific curiosity, her trip to Arizona State University for a postdoc with Marco Janssen, her appreciation for “beautiful” (agent-based) models, the challenges of raising two young children, and ultimately her voyage back to Spain for her current position. All that’s missing is a good tortilla.